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Bwa ha ha. I told you so. No matter how much martial arts you know a big and strong dude will whoop that ass. Brock showed it
tru dat.
wow brock sucks and randy sucks even more ufc is a jock tell me when the next k1 dream of aff comes out so i can see some real good fighters long live the king FEDOR
2 Come On4 Real
Fedor vs. Arlovski Jan. 24 2009
Brute force! Ancient technique to put down a Lion!
total bullshit lesnar is a douchebag….
Yea yea, say all you want about Lesnar. He’s been at the top of WWE and IWGP, made a NFL team, and is UFC champion. Not to mention his NCAA success. Everyone can whine and cry all they want, Lesnar won. Plain and simple.
j cripsy. Lesner won by brute force + skill. He’s not just a dumb giant beast.
That was not a knockout! I want a rematch. Stupid Steve Mazagatti f’ed up again. And Lesnar did not make the team you idiot he got cut from the practice squad. I’m a fan of his and Randy so this is not biased. It was a bad stoppage, and now Randy has to tolerate people saying he got obliterated by Lesnar!
i know Brock Lesnar and he is a dumb giant beast.
Bottom line….Lesnar won….and chances are he’d knock every single one of us out too.
no! actually new bottom line….he’s not the best, and we know it. he nay be the biggest but the best he’s not. the problem is UFC claims they house the best in their stables and this negates that.
Everyone should be happy about the outcome of this fight, sure it wasn’t a great takedown or knock out, hell it looked like Randy slipped and just got pounded. At least now we’ll get to see a kick ass rematch between these two. And even more Brock fights as people test their metal against him in the months to come. Someone bigger stronger faster and with more skills will step up and school Brock in the octagon.Count on it!
If Pride was still around Lesnar would be gettin his ass kicked by everyone, if a guy is built like a tree, you need to chop him down. Why Randy never went to take out his legs with kicks ill never know. Randy blew it with a stupid toe to toe strategy, and Lesnar wont last , trust me
Thsi si to Joshy crispy, you are a fool big and strong do not always prevail what about antonio nouguira and bob sapp, bob sap was huge!!! bigger than lesnar and what happened, arm bar. end of match. anyone can get caught in anything at any given time even the best like randy and even brock.
this is the fight that brock proved he could take a punch he hardly got hit in his first 3 matches!!!!
This reminds me of some skinny ass white dude once challenge me saying he has a black belt in karate this and that. I could bench press 300 pounds it took just one punch to knock his little ass out. I like watching martial arts dont get me wrong but it dont mean they could beat everyone else up cuz they know it. I weigh over two hundred pounds and bench press 300 pounds i bet you anything I could knock little a dude like Kenny Florian with all that skill the hell out.
It’s not so much wining the title but defending it. Let’s see how long Brock can do that. That’s the sign of a true champion. A good example is Fedor.
LOL. You guys are funny. I just can’t wait to see the Lesnar vs. Noguera fight. I called the Brock/Randy fight to the “T” on UFC Fantasy. Brock is no pushover and he was hungrier than Randy. Sadly, I feel Noguera will beat Brock Lesnar, after Mir, Because of his ground game.
P.S.
Jokatech: “That was not a knockout! I want a rematch. Stupid Steve Mazagatti f’ed up again.”
1) You’re right. It was not a K.O. It was a T.K.O. It did buckle Randy and the ref did give Randy plenty of time to defend himself. Brock kept on with those XXXL Hammers.
2) The Ref wasn’t Steve Mazagatti.
congratulations brock lesnar!! great performance against 1 of the best of all time! frank mir looks a long time ago now. fuck the critics you can only beat whose front of you.
Brock is a new name in the UFC. All you haters can say what you want… bottom line is: HE WON THE FIGHT. Mir is lucky The ref didn’t call his fight too because Brock was owning him as well. Brock’s WWE and NFL careers were nothing and doesn’t change the fact that the dude is in shape and is a NCAA wrestler! Do a bit of history on Lesnar. He has a long career ahead of him. Didn’t know his name before? Well, know him now.
Umm John Crispy, don’t be so confident. I think Kenny Florian would smash your face into non-existance. No offense, but just like what you know doesn’t matter, neither does size. You’ve probably fought pansy ass martial artists. I would be careful with Kenny myself, he’s one of my favorite fighters. The dude is a great warrior. And I have studied Many arts for 14 years. I bench 330+ pounds and I wouldn’t sleep on Kenny. At the same time, I weigh 180, so fools tend to sleep on me on rare occasions.
Shit fool. Brock already just showed you none of that kung fu shit matters. I like watching it but on the street it aint shit
I agree with joshy, when you get a guy who is 275 pounds smashing your face in with a great ground and pound game, your ground game won’t save you when you get stunned like Randy did.
Crispy, just because you got a lucky hit in doesn’t prove that size overpowers martial arts in any way. For all we know, the guy could’ve been an idiot. If you play your game right and protect your head, ya don’t get knocked out. Some people are TRAINED to take a punch. I hope you mess with the wrong guy someday.
Fedor will still work Lesner he is bigger than Randy and hits harder and is more explosive. Lesner will be champ until he fights Fedor. Peace
I Love it..to all you brock haters what can you say now he is the champ
he beat down a one of the best in the world and to ever fight..you guys can not
talk shit brock had probably the three toughest fights anyone has ever had in there first three fights..got to give to him…and everyone get off fedors nuts he is not in the ufc and untill then shut the hell up about him….and there is no lucky hit how can it be lucky when thats what he is trying to do…BROCK LESNAR IS THE CHAMP DEAL WITH IT….
Brock fought a smart fight to say the least. He did not go crazy or give Randy any openings to sub him out. The age factor I don’t think was a huge deal but I do think the fact randy did not fight for like 15 months was.
Everyone complaining about the stoppage obviously needs to get hammer punched directly to the middle of their faces REPEATEDLY by Brock at 100 MPH and see how fast they wish the ref would stop it..I thought the ref let it go to long myself. All randy was doing was feebly flailing his arms about as his face got rearranged.
All you randy fans and Brock haters complaining and bitching why? randy did not cry or bitch about the stoppage, why should any of you? He prob. thanked the ref after he got his brain unscrambled for saving his life.LOL
A half landed Brock punch is prob. just as hard as most peoples full on shots. His hands are like lunch boxes filled with lead raining down on your face.
As far as I seen this fight was more of a passing the torch kind of deal. Randy might still be able to fight with the “smaller” heavyweights but he had NOTHING that could stop the awesome power of the “current big thing”
The Brock jealousy is just horrendous. He is nothing less then a total package athlete and ferocious competitor and as we found out in this fight he does have a chin too and seeing his own blood pisses him off
All I can say is Im excited for the future of the Heavyweight Division. It took knowing a thing or two for Brock to win. Brock didnt want to strike with Randy and Randy did want to wrestle with Brock. Had Randy danced a bit, threw some short jabs, I feel Brock would have worn down. One thing here to remember here folks, LEG STRIKES. That huge frame is being held up by something. Kick those legs and watch what happens. Congrats to Brock on the win and be rest assured we’ll all see Randy again.
By the way Couture is a bitch
Down South you make a good point as far as “passing the torch” is concerned. I forsaw this before the fight. But you are also a cowardly idiot. Brock’s size has you thinking that he’s a god. Randy was not out. Learn the fight game or shut up.
I dint say he was a god but the simple fact he is like 3 times Randy’s size didn’t look good for randy from the start. LOL Cowardly idiot? wtf is your deal? You are a total moron. where did i say randy was out? i said after he got his brain unscrambled (from getting his face smashed in)..SAID NOTHING about out at any point that i can see..you want me to learn the fight game or shut up eh? then I suggest you learn to read or don’t post
Couture is overrated 16-9. bwa ha ha 9 losses, he has a Tank Abbot record
Couture sucks
joshy crispy
“Bwa ha ha. I told you so. No matter how much martial arts you know a big and strong dude will whoop that ass. Brock showed it”
Brock is not a big and strong dude who came in off the streets and beat a MMA fighter. Brock is someone who trained for two years to become a big strong mixed martial artist. Get the differnece?
I’m 175lb and I kick the living shit out of 240lb street fighters every other day. After these guys join my gym and learn how to fight, They are much hardy to deal with.. although I still kick the shit out of most of them.
Hey Wow. All that Chop Suey shit don’t work on the street.
joshy crispy… with your attitude, you will get hurt one day. Out on the streets it doesn’t matter how big you are even more so than in the ring, cuz you have the element of surprise going for you. If you go up against a guy on the streets who really knows what he’s doing in a combination of BJJ, Thai Boxing, etc., it doesn’t matter how big you are. Just so you know, I train in BJJ and Thai boxing, bench 350, and weigh 215. There are guys I train with who are 175 lbs and no where near my level of strength and I would hate to have to meet them on the streets. This is because they have more experience and are way more technical. To sum things up, if you have two guys who are the same weight, one has a mma background, while the other just talks a lot like you, the mma guy should win easily. I have a strong suspicion that you are either lying about the black belt you fought, or he lied to you. A lot of karate schools, tae kwon do schools, etc, virtually sell black belts at the right price. But I guarantee if you went up agaist someone who really did know what they were doing it would be a much different story. Keep that in mind next time you are walking around with your chest puffed out.
bgen, very well said. It doesn’t matter what people believe, because when the time comes for action, fidelity takes presidence. I never heard of someone denying away a beatdown. I just discussed with one of my fellow martial artists the other day about the same topic. Everyone knows that these cookie cutter martial artists who get their butts kicked by losers on the streets are not real students of the art. There is a difference between a technician and a disinterested student at the Y.
For once I find myself agreeing with crispy. Dojo training gives you certain tools to use, but away from the octagon or ring is away from sport. There are no referees, judges or any one else to step in, apart from your opponents friends waiting to stick the boot in at the first opportunity. It’s a different kind of fight and one that has to be finished quickly and decisively in order to put anyone else off stepping in. What Dojo trainers fail to realise about streetfighters, is that they mix with others that have a certain mindset, a killer instinct that can get tempered and trained out of you in a Dojo. A black belt means nothing outside other than proving that you can stick at a discipline for a given length of time. Where in Karate, BJJ, Judo, Thai boxing do they teach or advocate stamping repeatedly on someone’s head, shoulders, ribs, knees, hands and feet. In a streetfight you make sure they go down and stay down, and send a message to anyone and everyone not to fuck.
ps a 300 bench press means fuck all either
All I know is some dude came stepping saying he was a black belt I knocked him the fuck out with one punch. The end. Oh yeah and BJ Penn is a bitch
See Ocelot, that’ where exposure is key. The level of fighting that you have come to know as representing Martial arts at an expert level is not accurate to its general calibur. The sporty combat that as bgen brought out, some of these garbage schools promote, cannot be called real martial arts. I have studied Wing Tsun for a few years as well as other styles such as boxing and wrestling. Wing Tsun has the deadliest techniques I have seen. I have had s few street fights and I have been swung on from behind. You will never in a thousand years develop any streetfighter killer instinct that will match the incapacitating force of death techniques that you learn in the dim mak and any other tempered and COMPLETE styles of kung fu. Look up the name Martial arts. It was implemented as a watered down derivitive of kung fu when the Japanase occupied China. In a sense that symbolizes what you are getting with some of these American money-sucking schools.
Don’t get me wrong at all. I know that someone who trains for real, and yes Kung Fu is all encompassing, is generally more capable than someone who knows fuck all. But the general standard (I’m talking GENERALLY here), is that of a sport mentality. I know someone who trained for X years in Karate, and there was nothing else (to match it in his eyes). Then he converted to BJJ and again there was nothing else, and is now an instructor. Not so long ago he got into a fight with a fat fuck at his sons school and got downed in one, didn’t have a clue what to do, didn’t know how to anticipate body language or sly turning and walking away techniques. If you’ve got it, you’ve got it, and if you haven’t, you haven’t. ‘Never in a thousand years develop any streetfighter killer instinct…’ People share ideas and techniques with their friends, real ones. This is where formalised ‘Martial Arts came from in the first place, from friends, gangs and armies going into fights and sharing what worked for them in reality (a thousand or so years ago).
crispything - And I bet you’ve been living off of knocking that skinny white dude out ever since. You must be so proud.
LOL! I can see Crispy kissing his trophy for downing that scrawny dude! He probably wear’s a shirt, cap, and sneakers branded after that glorious beat down on the street. It’s just funny to imagine.
For JoshyCrispy and anyone else in this forum who doubts the effectiveness of martial arts in streetfighting, go to youtube and search pimp gets knocked out by cop. You will see what happens when a pimp in Houston slaps his girl around and a martial arts instructor takes offense. It’s really funny how this pimp confronts the guy and then gets completely knocked out cold. I’ve read a few comments about the importance of a mindset in being able to fight in an uncontrolled environment. There is no doubt a person’s mindset can place limits on how well a person is able to defend themselves. Fear can cripple and creates boundaries. A person must be able to control and overcome their fear in order to utilize their skills, otherwise they panic and all those skills go out the window. However, a person who has trained in any combat sport, i.e., boxing, mma, etc, has overcome that sense of fear if they have done any sparring or competed in tournaments.
I’ve seen that clip and the pimp, let’s face it, is a bit of a cock, playing on intimidation over action.
I’m saying that sparring and Dojo work can, and does in many cases, give a false sense of ability. Training does equip you with the tools to do the job, but I own metalwork tools and can’t use them to make a bridge (well not a very good one). Nerves are the limiting factor then in someone who has trained, as well as reading a situation and maneuvering yourself into a favourable position so as nobody notices, ie stance, light, etc, etc.
Anyone who knows anything about fighting should know there is no substitute for training. Many times in a street fight it boils down to, “Are you ready to fight, and what are you fighting for.” There is no substitute for training though. I’ve been in some pretty tight spots and my training has always been a major help. Attitude is a big factor too. If a fighter is trained correctly and learns the importance of the training then that attitude will be there. You just can’t argue with that fact. Go walk around the local mall on a friday night and look at all the teenagers with their hats turned around backward and their pants sagging to their knees. They can all talk the talk but if I shot a quick jab and straight right to their chin, what would they do next? They’d either be knocked out or all that attitude would be sucked right out. Then what are they relying on? I’m shooting in after that to take them apart. Too use your analogy, if you have the tools, you just have to be willing and ready to use them.
Mrs Ocelot(????), another thing you and Joshy Crispy fail to get is that Mixed Martial Arts is the most brutal, practical, and effective form of fighting. And just to clarify, it does work on the street. You were implying if you take an MMA fighter out of a controlled environment they lose their advantage??? That is complete B.S. You mentioned stance, light, and nerves, as some things that take away the MMA Fighter’s advantage on the street. That is garbage. If you are about to fight and you don’t notice some guy off the street is about to throw a cheap shot by their body language…well…whatever. A cheap shot is a cheap shot, but if you are about to throw down, most people are going to be more aware of a person’s body language, etc. Maybe you and Joshy Crispy can hook up and start your own tag team, not train, and just maneuver yourselves into a proper stance, lighting conditions, and psyche yourselves up before you cheap shot the guy.
OMG Bgen, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bgen - Whoever said that I don’t train?
And, there’s no such thing as a cheap shot in fighting.
Train on - you fucking turkey.
Not to intervene, but Mrs. Ocelot, BGEN is right. What do you think they go over in real martial arts classes. Any trained fighter can tell you, that you spend 50 percent of the class going over brutal street scenarios. Now, when it comes to the street, of course it’s true you can never go over all scenarios. However, the mentality of being accute and sharpening refelxes is all you work on. You have to stop thinking that going to a Martial arts school dulls your street smarts or ingenuity. It stregthens them. That’s why it’s nothing but a gift and a benefit.
Jokatech - I suggest that you re-read my messages in their entirety. Everything that you say is right. Again I’ll try to explain my point of view, and I apologise if I haven’t made it clear.
Dojo training CAN, and in many cases does, give a false reading of ability, and give a dangerous degree of misplaced confidence.
Dojo training CAN train the natural instinct out of the person who trains.
I hope that this makes it clear to the reader.
Old Mrs Ocelot- I’ll just bet you would be quick to throw a cheap shot, wouldn’t you? Hell, I think calling me a turkey is a cheap shot… Come on, you can do better than that. Anyways, you are overempasizing this point you are trying to make. And yes, I am clear on your point of view. Thats why we are having this ridiculous argument. Maybe it’s because of some bad experience you had, which is easily understandable. There are a lot of martial arts schools out there that do not teach practical fighting techniques or do not teach the form properly. That being said, I will repeat what I have said before. MMA is brutally effective on the streets. That is what the combined arts of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, etc, are designed for. In fact, if you learn the technique properly, a person can take a cheap shot that is directed at them, and turn it against their opponent. It’s all about defense. And as for training the natural instinct out of a fighter? Thats just dumb. Why do you even pay attention to MMA anyways.
Rediculous argument - yes
I say that we basically agree, or I certainly do with the majority of what you say. But you show your ignorance when you say that there are ‘cheap shots’, there aren’t.
If you get into a position where you have to employ BJJ (in a streetfight), you have seriously misjudged your training if that training is pure self defense (multiple attackers, etc).
There’s no mention of Aikido, Pentak Silat or Krav Marga, all of which are much more self defense orientated, and systems that don’t have a SPORT side to their nature. Thai boxing, while giving you UNDOUBTEDLY effective tools ‘on the street’, is a SPORT, and carries with it a sport mentality and RULES. Same with BJJ. JJ is different.
Why do I pay attention to MMA anyways? That’s my business.
Do you know the ‘Black Medicine’ series by Dr Mashiro (no Mr Miaggi there)?
Worth reading and taking to heart.
Is hitting you with my rolling pin (a wooden, glass, or ceramic implement used for flattening uncooked dough) considered a cheap shot?
If so, yes I would.
If I am over emphasizing my point it’s because it doesn’t seem to be getting through.
Mrs. Ocelot, I read the post. You are Wrong. I’m sorry. You have to understand that the reason martial arts schools exist is to sharpen instincts and reflexes. Every single last “cheap” method that you talk about is gone over in depth again and again and again in class. I know- I’ve been through it and it can get annoying. You are right- there is no such thing as a cheap shot. However, don’t think that formal training goes against this. That is flat out wrong. Sports varieties of martial arts are despised by old school practicioners. It may well have been the reason that Bruce Lee was killed. It was strictly for defense and carried on through tradition. The sports you see today, almost no master would condone participating in. Please understand this, or you will be the one who develops the false sense of confidence and gets laid out on the streets assuming that a mystique nature will save you. What would you trust more in a life or death situation. A patented and tested gun, or one that you built yourself without knowledge.
Bruce Lee died of a cerebral oedema. Mystique??
Ok, you’re right.
ps I take back the turkey comment - genuinely
Mrs Ocelot- You keep referring to the sport aspect of BJJ and Muay Thai. I suppose you would say the same for boxing. I heard James Toney say a long time ago that you can play football, baseball, basketball, but you don’t play boxing. Why is that? Because if you play boxing you will get hurt. Same goes for the styles we have been discussing. You talk about showing my ignorance when I say there are cheap shots? There absolutely are cheap shots. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be ready for them though. If I walked up behind Chuck Liddell, punched him in the back of the head and knocked him out, could I legitimately say I kicked his ass? No. That seems to be the argument you are making here. Anyways, what the hell are you talking about…attacking me with a rolling pin? Calling me a turkey? What are you…an angry grandmother???
LOL. Let’s all make a resolution to read more. LOL!
And not the thoughts in our own beady minds, but the knowledge in books.
Mystique is a mysterious and powerful air.
Bruce Lee overworked himself, but was given prescription medicine that was not his own instead of being taken to a hospital for a headache that turned fatal. Most of the murder theories will remain “speculation” simply because solid proof can never be found. His son was shot with live ammo on a movie set that had already housed several legal violations from day one of filming, including the illegally live ammunition. Yet, his murder is also speculation.
bgen - This is getting decidedly boring for me. Boxing is a sport, I hope that even you can see that. It’s a combat sport. You PLAY cricket, you PLAY football, you don’t play boxing. Boxing is a sport because it is between willing participants, guided by strict guidelines called rules. Are you with me so far? Being a COMBAT sport, it does arm a practitioner with certain weapons, or tools, or moves, that can make a transition onto an arena that isn’t restricted by rules. It doesn’t need a quantum leap of thought or imagination to realise that boxing is a sport and that outside the ring it isn’t a sport, but both are combative. There are different moves and distances (and myriad other considerations), in combat, that benefit a certain body size, type and temperament. MMA is a sport that has built in to it a strict set of rules. When the UFC first came about their were fewer rules, now there are many more. With me? By training in MMA you arm yourself with many more tools than just studying one discipline, and cover all ranges. OK? Now, move outside the ring/octagon/whatever and their are many more moves and tools that you can and do use that are not covered by some traditional Martial Arts and MMA. Eye gouging, biting, nipping, scratching, throat shots, stamping, small joint locks, to name but a few. You may consider them cheap. I do not. If employing one or more of these things saved my life or the life of someone else, I’d use them without hesitation. I learned them from me, and watching women fight, women being a thousand times more vicious than men any day of the week.
Judo is also combative, but are not Judo practitioners called PLAYERS?
Cheap shot - All’s fair in love and war - The end justifies the means - I wouldn’t like to be you when he got up, though. When the US went in to Vietnam they tried to fight to the rules of the Geneva Convention (ish), effectively tying their hands up before they started. The US ‘lost’. They could have ‘won’ by throwing out the rule book, and nuking the land. Afghanistan is un-winnable for the same reasons (plus others).
Rolling pin - You’ve just twigged on that I’m a Grandmother (Great-Grandmother actually)? Angry? No. There’s a clue in the name I chose ‘OLD_MRS_OCELOT’.
Stay sharp,
Byeee.
Old Mrs Ocelot- YOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT!!! What you just wrote is completely off base. You are an idiot. Stay sharp??? Get real. You obviously don’t know jack shit about fighting and completely missed the point I was trying to make. I know there is a “sport” aspect of boxing, mma, etc. It’s way different though than any other sport because you don’t play boxing, mma, etc… you fight. You don’t hear of fighters getting ready to play a bout do you??? I would think that you of all people could see this…being that you are so into the importance of a fighter’s mindset over training. I can’t believe I’m actually having to explain this stuff to you. And about this cheap shot thing. A CHEAP SHOT IS A CHEAP SHOT!!! I will not repeat what I have already said about this, because obviously you should take your own advise and read the comments thoroughly before you post. Why don’t you respond to that comparison I made about Chuck Liddell earlier? …Another thing, do not put words in my mouth. I never said any of the things you described in the last post were cheap shots. What’s up with the comparison to Vietnam and Afghanistan…let’s not get political here…that’s the last thing we need. Also, I don’t like your sarcastic, condescending, weakass tone either. It kind of fits you though, with you emphasizing this cheapshot thing. It fits someone who would swing on a guy from behind, jump on someone when you have them outnumbered, or use some kind of a weapon when you know you would lose the fight otherwise. Your problem it seems, is that you have no honor…coward.
You seem to have red mist, use your training and calm down deary-boy. Read the post again, preferably after a wank when you’re nice and calm, see if you understand it.
red mist??? go have a wank? beating me with your rolling pin? calling me a turkey/deary-boy? …Wait, I get it. You are a ninety year old english grandmother. LOL… Oh, my god. That explains it.
English has a capital E. You missed the cricket reference (another sport).
Red mist??? go have a wank? beating me with your rolling pin? calling me a turkey/deary-boy? LOL, oh my god. I get it. You are an eighty year old english grandmother. That explains it.
Yeah, I guess I did miss that reference. You sound very proud. Maybe you should just stop talking. Isn’t it tea time?
Tea time passed yonks ago (I had mine with Nora Fosselthwaite, and we had scones). See what your forefathers let you miss out on through their treasonous ‘War Of Independence’?
Those scalawags, they hid in the woods and fired cheap shots at the British ranks.
Wooow! We have a young guy cheap shotting a woman for talking about cheap shots- What Irony! I’m done. Apparently neither of you read my posts. Let the foolishness continue.
I was just having some fun with it man. Old Mrs Ocelot, no hard feelings.
Besides, she put herself out there. She doesn’t get a free pass. Anyways, I’ve made my point and I’m done.
If we can’t have a tear-up now and again, lads, we’re in the wrong game.
Jokatech - Of course your posts were read, good stuff.
It’s all good. No hard feelings at all.
this goes to that crispy bitch, ive met guys like you before and i cant stand your kind, i wrestled for 15 years two of those years in college. never practiced much martial arts but i do know one thing ive been in many fights and alot of guys were much bigger than me. you big bastards always throw the nigger hay maker or try and grab ahold of a little guy. but when some one knows what they are doing youre fucked ive had big guys try and take me to the ground and they get dumped on there head and rocked. and i dont bench 300 plus im just naturally strong not much in the wieght room. but i dont care how good you are at bjj or boking or kick boxing you get too close to me ill take your big ass down and beat you. wrestling is superior and brock shows that for sure. its not just because hes big its because you cant take him off his feet to beat him as is the way with many wrestlers. id like to meet you crispy id whoop you ass in a heartbeat. like one person said above when you really fight someonen who has been in competition that fear is gone and instinct kicks in.youll get you ass whooped when you fight someone who knows and feels this. by the way im 175 and ill take you big ass and break you
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